FORBES, Isobel ^{1 2 3}

   Another name for Isobel was FORBES, Elizabeth.¹

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Isobel married William CHALMERS, son of Andrew CHALMERS 3rd of Strichen and Christine FRASER.¹ (William CHALMERS was born about 1513 and died by 1554(dvp) ³.)

  Marriage Notes:

"He (Thomas Fraser of Knockie) married Isobel or Elizabeth Forbes, a daughter of John Forbes of Corsindae, and widow successively of William Chalmer of Strichen, and secondly, of Thomas Fraser, son of Alexander, seventh Laird of Philorth ..."

from Scots Peerage (vol 5) ¹

Isobel next married Thomas FRASER purchaser of Strichen, son of Alexander FRASER 7th of Philorth and Katherine MENZIES.^{1 2} (Thomas FRASER purchaser of Strichen was born about 1534 and died on 24 December 1576 ^{3 4}.). The cause of his death was killed by Gordon of Gight.

  Marriage Notes:

"He (Thomas Fraser of Knockie) married Isobel or Elizabeth Forbes, a daughter of John Forbes of Corsindae, and widow successively of William Chalmer of Strichen, and secondly, of Thomas Fraser, son of Alexander, seventh Laird of Philorth ..."

from Scots Peerage (vol 5)




"Thomas, who bought Strichen from Alexander Chalmers. He married Isobel, daughter of Forbes of Corfurdie, by whom he had two daughters : (1) Katherine, married to William Forbes of Corsindae. (2) Violet, married in 1593 to James Sutherland of Kinstearie."

from Scots Peerage (vol 7)




"In 1573, King James VI. granted to Thomas Fraser and his wife Isabel Forbes, in conjunct fee, and to the survivor, a charter of the barony of Strichen, which is stated in the charter to have belonged to Thomas Fraser, and to have been resigned into the royal hands by him for new infeftment. Here neither the William Chalmers, nor his elder brother George, copied by Mr. Anderson from the above-mentioned manuscripts, can find a place; and it is clearly shown that Thomas Fraser, son of the Laird of Philorth, did not acquire Strichen in consequence of his marriage with Isabel Forbes, or in any manner that could give rise to dispute, but bought it openly from Alexander Chalmers, who had perfect right to sell it ; nor does it appear that Isabel Forbes had any interest beyond that which she acquired by the charter from King James VI. to her husband and herself. The whole story seems, therefore, to have been an invention of the authors of the mss., and it is highly improbable that the quarrel which took place between Thomas Fraser and Gordon of Gight could have any connection with the purchase of Strichen. On Christmas Eve 1576, Thomas Fraser and Gordon of Gight appear to have met at the village of Old Deer, a few miles from Strichen, but whether the meeting was for the transaction of business, or in consequence of a social gathering, as the festive season would suggest, it is impossible to say. However, some quarrel occurred between them, and the Laird of Strichen left the place of meeting with the intention of returning home. Gight followed him, and coming up behind him on the bridge that there spans the Ugie river, struck him a blow with his sword, killing him on the spot."

from Frasers of Philorth ^{1 2 3}

Isobel next married Thomas FRASER of Knockie, then 1st of Strichen (2nd house), son of Alexander FRASER 4th Lord Fraser of Lovat and Janet CAMPBELL, after 1576.³ (Thomas FRASER of Knockie, then 1st of Strichen (2nd house) was born about 1546 and died on 2 October 1612 in Inverness, Inverness-shire, Scotland ¹.)

  Marriage Notes:

"He (Thomas Fraser of Knockie) married Isobel or Elizabeth Forbes, a daughter of John Forbes of Corsindae, and widow successively of William Chalmer of Strichen, and secondly, of Thomas Fraser, son of Alexander, seventh Laird of Philorth ..."

from Scots Peerage (vol 5)




"After Thomas's death his widow married Thomas Fraser of Knockie, a cadet of Lovat, who, after the marriage, bought up the interests of his step-daughters in Strichen with consent of Sir Alexander Fraser, eighth of Philorth, who was their guardian. Thomas Fraser of Knockie was henceforth designated of Strichen, and became the ancestor of the present Lord Fraser of Lovat."

from Scots Peerage (vol 7)




"Having been left a widow by the murder of her first husband, Isabel Forbes, who, by the charter of 1573, had obtained infeftment in the estate of Strichen, oddly enough, married a second husband, who bore the same name as that of her first. This was Thomas Fraser of Knockie, second son of Alexander, fourth Lord Lovat, and he, after his marriage, and probably after the birth of his son, made an arrangement by which he bought up the interests of his two step-daughters, with the consent of Sir Alexander Fraser, eighth of Philorth, who had obtained the guardianship of the young ladies ; and thereupon they resigned in his favour, and disponed to him the estate and barony of Strichen, for which he received a charter under the Great Seal of King James VI. in 1591."

from Frasers of Philorth ^{1 2 3}