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FORBES, William 2nd of Corsindae
(About 1487-)
LUMSDEN, Margaret
(About 1499-)
FORBES, John 3rd of Brux, 'the Glyd Laird'
(About 1470-Before 1527)
GORDON, Mary
(About 1485-)
FORBES, John of Balfluig
(About 1530-)
FORBES, Janet
(About 1523-)
FORBES, Isobel
(About 1550-1611)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. CHALMER, William of Strichen
2. FRASER, Thomas of Strichen

3. FRASER, Thomas of Knockie, then of Strichen

FORBES, Isobel 1 2 3

  • Born: About 1550
  • Marriage (1): CHALMER, William of Strichen 1
  • Marriage (2): FRASER, Thomas of Strichen 1 2
  • Marriage (3): FRASER, Thomas of Knockie, then of Strichen after 1576 3
  • Died: 30 November 1611 1

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Isobel married William CHALMER of Strichen.1 (William CHALMER of Strichen was born about 1545.)


  Marriage Notes:

"He (Thomas Fraser of Knockie) married Isobel or Elizabeth Forbes, a daughter of John Forbes of Corsindae, and widow successively of William Chalmer of Strichen, and secondly, of Thomas Fraser, son of Alexander, seventh Laird of Philorth ..."

from Scots Peerage (vol 5) 1

Isobel next married Thomas FRASER of Strichen, son of Alexander FRASER 7th of Philorth and Katherine MENZIES.1 2 (Thomas FRASER of Strichen was born about 1534 and died on 24 December 1576 3.). The cause of his death was killed by Gordon of Gight.


  Marriage Notes:

"He (Thomas Fraser of Knockie) married Isobel or Elizabeth Forbes, a daughter of John Forbes of Corsindae, and widow successively of William Chalmer of Strichen, and secondly, of Thomas Fraser, son of Alexander, seventh Laird of Philorth ..."

from Scots Peerage (vol 5)




"Thomas, who bought Strichen from Alexander Chalmers. He married Isobel, daughter of Forbes of Corfurdie, by whom he had two daughters : (1) Katherine, married to William Forbes of Corsindae. (2) Violet, married in 1593 to James Sutherland of Kinstearie."

from Scots Peerage (vol 7)




"In 1573, King James VI. granted to Thomas Fraser and his wife Isabel Forbes, in conjunct fee, and to the survivor, a charter of the barony of Strichen, which is stated in the charter to have belonged to Thomas Fraser, and to have been resigned into the royal hands by him for new infeftment. Here neither the William Chalmers, nor his elder brother George, copied by Mr. Anderson from the above-mentioned manuscripts, can find a place; and it is clearly shown that Thomas Fraser, son of the Laird of Philorth, did not acquire Strichen in consequence of his marriage with Isabel Forbes, or in any manner that could give rise to dispute, but bought it openly from Alexander Chalmers, who had perfect right to sell it ; nor does it appear that Isabel Forbes had any interest beyond that which she acquired by the charter from King James VI. to her husband and herself. The whole story seems, therefore, to have been an invention of the authors of the mss., and it is highly improbable that the quarrel which took place between Thomas Fraser and Gordon of Gight could have any connection with the purchase of Strichen. On Christmas Eve 1576, Thomas Fraser and Gordon of Gight appear to have met at the village of Old Deer, a few miles from Strichen, but whether the meeting was for the transaction of business, or in consequence of a social gathering, as the festive season would suggest, it is impossible to say. However, some quarrel occurred between them, and the Laird of Strichen left the place of meeting with the intention of returning home. Gight followed him, and coming up behind him on the bridge that there spans the Ugie river, struck him a blow with his sword, killing him on the spot."

from Frasers of Philorth 1 2 3

Isobel next married Thomas FRASER of Knockie, then of Strichen, son of Alexander FRASER 4th Lord Fraser of Lovat and Janet CAMPBELL, after 1576.3 (Thomas FRASER of Knockie, then of Strichen was born about 1551 and died on 2 October 1612 in Inverness, Inverness-shire, Scotland 1.)


  Marriage Notes:

"He (Thomas Fraser of Knockie) married Isobel or Elizabeth Forbes, a daughter of John Forbes of Corsindae, and widow successively of William Chalmer of Strichen, and secondly, of Thomas Fraser, son of Alexander, seventh Laird of Philorth ..."

from Scots Peerage (vol 5)




"After Thomas's death his widow married Thomas Fraser of Knockie, a cadet ofLovat, who, after the marriage, bought up the interests of his step-daughters in Strichen with consent of Sir Alexander Fraser, eighth of Philorth, who was their guardian. Thomas Fraser of Knockie was henceforth designated of Strichen, and became the ancestor of the present Lord Fraser of Lovat."

from Scots Peerage (vol 7) 1 2

Sources


1 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 5 (1908).

2 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 7 (1910).

3 e-books, The Frasers of Philorth vol.2 by Alexander Fraser (1879).

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