LUMSDEN, Margaret 1
- Born: About 1499
- Marriage (1): JOHNSTON, William of that Ilk 1
- Marriage (2): FORBES, William 2nd of Corsindae 1 2
- Marriage (3): LUNDIE, Robert 5th of Balgonie and 1st of Conland 1 3
Other names for Margaret were LUMMYSDEN, Margaret of Condelain in the shire of Fife 4 and LUMSDEN, Margt Daughter to the Laird of Conlan.5
User ID: Z590.
General Notes:
"I gather from the Acta Dominorum, under dates 26th October, 1484, and 8th February following, that Thomas (Lumsden) had two sons, John and James; but if so, they must have died before their father, for Margaret undoubtedly succeeded him."
from Families of Lumsden 1
Margaret married William JOHNSTON of that Ilk, son of Alexander DE JOHNSTON of Caskieben and Agnes GLOSTER.1 (William JOHNSTON of that Ilk was born about 1465 and died on 9 September 1513 in Battle of Flodden Field, Northumberland, England 6.)
Marriage Notes:
"Margaret (Lumsden) married - (1) William Johnstone of that ilk (Caskieben, now called Keith Hall), who was killed at Flodden"
from Families of Lumsden 1
Margaret next married William FORBES 2nd of Corsindae, son of Duncan FORBES of Corsindae and Christian MERCER.1 2 (William FORBES 2nd of Corsindae was born about 1487 7.)
Marriage Notes:
"Margaret (Lumsden) married -
(1) William Johnstone of that ilk (Caskieben, now called Keith Hall), who was killed at Flodden;
and (2) Duncan (see Note below) Forbes of Corsindae.
Nisbet, in the Appendix to his Heraldry, says that Margaret Lumsden married Lundin of that ilk. It may, perhaps, be true; but in what order this much-married lady took her husbands I know not."
from Families of Lumsden
" ... the forsd. William Forbes of Corsendae married Margaret Lumsden, daughter to the Laird of Cullon, and relict of the Laird of Caskieben ... "
from Family of Forbes
Note:
Duncan Forbes of Corsindae was the father of William Forbes of Corsindae. Margaret Lumsden married the son, not the father. The mistake may have arisen from the fact that Margaret's stepfather was also named Duncan Forbes. 1 2
Margaret next married Robert LUNDIE 5th of Balgonie and 1st of Conland, son of Sir Andrew LUNDIE 2nd of Balgonie, Sheriff of Fife and Janet DISHINGTON.1 3 (Robert LUNDIE 5th of Balgonie and 1st of Conland was born about 1502 and died about 1581 3.)
Marriage Notes:
"Margaret married - (1) William Johnstone of that ilk (Caskieben, now called Keith Hall), who was killed at Flodden; and (2) Duncan Forbes of Corsindae. Nisbet, in the Appendix to his Heraldry, says that Margaret Lumsden married Lundin of that ilk. It may, perhaps, be true; but in what order this much-married lady took her husbands I know not."
from Families of Lumsden
Note:
The Lundies of Balgonie are descended from the family of Lundin of that Ilk.
"Robert (Lundie) succeeded his brother Andrew to Balgonie, and obtained the Barony of Conland through his marriage to Margaret Lumisden, the heiress of Thomas Lumisden of Conland. Not much is known about Robert's life, but he was succeeded to Balgonie by his eldest son David after his death around 1581. The Barony of Conland was passed first to his second son, James; and next to his third son, Robert. Both these children died without issue and Conland was finally settled upon Robert and Margaret's fourth son, Andrew Lundie (4th of that name of Conland). Several generations later, the Lundies of Conland would become the representatives of Lundie of Balgonie.
They had several daughters of which included Agnes Lundie who married Sir William Graham of Claverhouse, and were the great-grandparents of John Graham, Viscount Dundee."
from lundie.org website 1 3
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