SANDILANDS, John
- Born: 15 November 1805 2
- Baptised: 29 December 1805, Kelso, Roxburghshire, Scotland 2
- Marriage (1): SYMONDS, Jane on 20 February 1836 in Gorbals Parish, Lanarkshire, Scotland 1
- Died: 24 August 1873 at 4.40 am, 109 Henderson Street, Kinning Park, Glasgow, Scotland 3
Cause of his death was diarrhoea.3
Another name for John was SANDLINS, John.4
General Notes:
Old Parish Registers
Kelso parish Roxburghshire
Baptisms
"1805 29 December
John Sandilands
Alexander Sandilands and Isabel Scott his spouse had a son named John born 15 November 1805 and baptized 29 December 1805 wit. William Scott and Jno Sandilands"
The 1841 census for the parish of Greenock Middle, Renfrewshire, recorded John Sandilands as the (presumed) head of a household living in Longwell Close. With him lived his wife, Jane, and three children, Isabella, Jane, and Alexander. John was in the 30-34 years age range and had not been born in Renfrewshire. By occupation he was a journeyman smith.
In the 1851 UK census for Greenock Renfrewshire John Sandilands aged 45 years, his wife Jane aged 44 years, and their two daughters Isabella aged 13 years and Jane aged 11 years, were recorded living at 67 Main Street Cartsdyke. John was a journeyman blacksmith who had been born in Kelso.
In 1861 the UK census for Greenock recorded John and Jane Sandilands, his wife, living together at Macdougal's Land, Greenock. He was recorded as 54 years old and worked as a blacksmith. His birthplace was Kelso.
John Sandilands gave notice of his wife Jean's death before the registrar, John Love, at Greenock on 28th April 1862.
John Sandilands was recorded as a journeyman blacksmith in the marriage certificate of his daughter Jane in 1868. He was a widower then.
John Sandilands was recorded as 64 years old and had been born in Kelso, according to the 1871 census for Govan Church parish, Lanarkshire. He was a widower living with his daughter and son in law, Frank Howit, who was the head of the household. They lived at 109 Henderson Street. John's occupation was still recorded as blacksmith.
In his death certificate of 1873 John Sandilands was recorded as a journeyman blacksmith and widower of Jane Simon. His recorded age at death was 67 years. Both of his parents were deceased. The names of John's parents were given by his daughter, Jane, as 'John Sandilands master blacksmith deceased' and 'Jane Sandilands maiden surname Campbell deceased'. No marriage between such a couple has been found inside or outside of Scotland. Nor have any children been found born to this couple. However a Sandilands male did father a child born exactly 67 years before John's death in Kelso Roxburghshire, Alexander Sandilands married to Isabella Scott. These two first names were reflected in the naming of John's children. Jane Howit may have unknowingly given inaccurate information about her father's parentage, drawing on the names of a previous generation, grandparents of her father rather than parents, and possibly influenced by the fact that John and Jane were the names of her own parents.
In the death certificate of his daughter, Isabella McLaren, in 1921, John Sandilands was recorded as a 'blacksmith deceased'. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Research Notes:
WHICH JOHN SANDILANDS?
IS HE SON OF ALEXANDER AND ISABELLA SANDILANDS?
Summary of information regarding John Sandilands:
1805
baptism certificate: born 15 November 1805 to Alexander Sandilands a blacksmith and Isabel Scott, baptized 29 December 1805 in Kelso parish Roxburghshire witnesses William Scott and Jno Sandilands (probably both grandfathers)
1836
marriage certificate: Gorbals parish, John Sandilands in Tradeston and Jane Symonds in Hutchesontown
1841
census: born 1807-1811, in Scotland but not Renfrewshire, smith, living in Greenock Middle parish, married, wife Jane, children Isabella, Jane, Alexander
1851
census: born about 1806, in Kelso, Roxburghshire, blacksmith, living in Greenock East parish, married, wife Jane, children Isabella and Jane
1861
census: born about 1807, in Kelso, Roxburghshire, blacksmith, living in Greenock East parish, married, wife Jane
1871
census: born about 1807, in Kelso Roxburghshire, blacksmith, living in Govan parish, widower, daughter Jane
1873
death certificate: born about 1806, blacksmith, living in Govan Church parish, widower of Jane Simon, daughter Jane Howit as informant, parents noted as John Sandilands blacksmith and Jane Campbell both deceased
Medical Notes:
A. Mungall, surgeon, certified John's cause of death.
Jane Howit, John's daughter who had been present where her father died, gave notice of her father's death before the registrar, Thomas Steel, at Govan on 8 September 1873. 3
John married Jane SYMONDS, daughter of Certificate Shows Blank SYMONDS and Certificate Shows Blank SYMONDS MS UNKNOWN, on 20 February 1836 in Gorbals Parish, Lanarkshire, Scotland.1 (Jane SYMONDS was born about 1808 in Glasgow, Scotland 6 8 and died 26 April 1862 at 2.30 pm in 14 Stanners Street, Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland 1 5 6.). The cause of her death was gastritis.3
Marriage Notes:
Old Parish register of Gorbals parish
Marriages
"February 1836
John Sandilands in Tradeston and Jane Symonds in Hutchesontown married by ..." 1
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