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OGILVY, James
(About 1456-1505)
GORDON, Agnes (2)
(About 1462-)
ABERNETHY, James 3rd Lord Saltoun of Abernethy
(About 1435-1504)
OGILVY, Alexander of that Ilk and Findlater
(About 1480-1554)
ABERNETHY, Janet
(About 1488-)
OGILVY, Marioun
(About 1518-)

 

Family Links

Spouses/Children:
1. INNES, Robert of Monycabok

2. MACINTOSH, William 15th of that Ilk

OGILVY, Marioun

  • Born: About 1518
  • Marriage (1): INNES, Robert of Monycabok 1
  • Marriage (2): MACINTOSH, William 15th of that Ilk 2 3

   Another name for Marioun was OGILVY, Margaret.2 3

   User ID: V183.

  Research Notes:

'MARGARET' AND HER PARENTAGE

The daughter of Alexander Ogilvie 1st of Findlater married Walter Barclay of Gartly, who died in 1532. After his death, she then married James Gordon 1st of Lesmoir by 1546. Her second husband, James Gordon, did not die until June 1558.

If William Macintosh's wife was named 'Margaret' and the daughter of Alexander Ogilvie of that Ilk, it's impossible to see how Margaret Ogilvy's marriage to William Macintosh could fit into this timeline, since, as stated above, she was still William's wife in 1549, just before his death.

The problem may have arisen in a confusion of Christian names. 'Margaret', 'Mariot', 'Mary', 'Marion' and 'Marjory', for a variety of reasons linked to transcription where more than one language is in use (see Research Notes on Mariot le Chen), are often confused, especially within a family.

An example from another Ogilvy family may help clarify the matter. Sir Walter Ogilvy of Boyne and Christian Keith had two daughters: 'Margaret', married twice, first to John Stewart then to George Barclay; and 'Marjory' married to James Dunbar of Tarbat. Yet we still find, in papers of the Ogilvy family, 'Marjory' also named as 'Margaret':

"1555 October 24
Contract between Walter Ogilvy of Boyne kt and Margaret Ogilvy his daughter on one part, and James Dunbar of Terbert and James Dunbar, his son and apparent heir, on other part, whereby said Margaret is to marry said James younger, before next Easter, etc. Traces of 2 applied seals." (GD248/82/4)

It may be that the woman who married William Macintosh was the subject of a similar confusion. 4


Marioun married Robert INNES of Monycabok, son of Robert INNES 2nd of Innermarkie and Elspet STEWART.1 (Robert INNES of Monycabok was born about 1513 and died before 10 November 1547.)


  Marriage Notes:

"Robert Innes of Monycabok was the son of Robert Innes, 2nd of Invermarkie and Lady Elspeth Stewart. He married Marioun Ogilvy, daughter of Alexander Ogilvy, 4th of Deskford and Findlater and Janet Abernethy. He died before 10 November 1547. In 1531 his father made over Monycabok to him."

from thepeerage.com website 1

Marioun next married William MACINTOSH 15th of that Ilk, son of Lachlan MACINTOSH of Dunachtan, 14th of Mackintosh and Janet GORDON.2 3 (William MACINTOSH 15th of that Ilk was born about 1520 and died on 23 August 1550 5.). The cause of his death was executed.


  Marriage Notes:

"6 May 1549 Charter by Patrick, Bishop of Moray and Commendator of Scone, with consent of his chapter, to William Makintosche [McIntosh] of Dunnachtane [Dunachton], Captain of the Clanquhatan [Clan Chattan], and Margaret Ogilvy [Ogilvie], his spouse, in liferent, and the lawful heirs-male of the said William and his assignees, of the lands of Moymore [Moy-mor], Moybeg [Moy-beg], Altnaslanacht [Altnaslanach], Tullochtclowre [Tullochclury], Sleauch [Sleach], Tullochtmakearre [Dalmagerry], with the mill and kiln thereof, Rowan [?Rowan ?Ruthven] and Innerin [Invereen], and their pertinents, in the Barony of Moymoir and Arclauch [Ardclach] and regality of Spynie, which lands, etc., the said William has resigned for this regrant thereof to himself and his said spouse; to be held in feu-farm and heritage of the granter and his successors, the Bishops of Moray, for the yearly payment of L.18, 6s. 4d., as the old feu-duty (including conver- sions) and 22s. 2 1/2d. of grassum, with the augmentation of 26s. 8d., and also rendering certain services"

from GD176/65




"William Mackintosh's wife was Margaret Ogilvie, daughter of Alexander, 1st baron of Findlater, and sister to James Ogilvie of Cardell, who had married William's mother. By this lady he had, with a daughter Margaret (married successively to the Lairds of Grant, Abergeldie, Pitsligo, and Duffus), two sons - William, who died young, and Lachlan, who became chief."

from Clan of Mackintosh

See Research Notes for comment regarding wife's Christian name. 2 3

Sources


1 Internet Site, http://www.thepeerage.com citing Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition.

2 National Records of Scotland, GD176 Papers of the Family of Mackintosh of Mackintosh 1442-1930 GD176/65.

3 e-books, Historical memoirs of the house and clan of Mackintosh and of the clan Chattan by Alexander Mackintosh (1880).

4 National Records of Scotland, GD248 Papers of the Ogilvy family, Earls of Seafield (Seafield Papers) c1205-1971 GD248/82/4.

5 Internet Site, https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy.

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