DOUGLAS, James of Tilquhillie ^{1 2 3}

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  Research Notes:

DOUGLAS OF TILQUHILLIE

The immediate ancestors of the family of Douglas of Tilquhillie are disputed:

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In volume six of The Scots Peerage footnote 6 on pages 353 and 354 reads:

"In a recent publication, The Book of the Irvings, 1907, by Col. J. B. Irving of Bonshaw, 185, 186, it is stated that there was another son, John (Douglas, brother of James, Earl of Morton), who is alleged to have married the heiress of Hawthornden Abernethy, and so became the founder of the family of Douglas of Tillyquhilly about 1450. But there is no evidence on record of this John, whose mother is said to be Agnes Keith, daughter of the Earl Marischal. No alliance is known between the Morton Douglases and the Keiths before 1505 (ante, p. 43). Hawthornden had been in Douglas hands since 1386, when Sir William Douglas, son and heir of Sir James Douglas of Strabrock (see note p. 343 supra) had a lease of the lands from John Melville of that Ilk (The Melvilles, etc., iii. 14, 15). The parentage of Sir James Douglas is not proved, but his predecessor in Strabrock was a brother of Sir James Douglas, first of Dalkeith, named John Douglas, who obtained the lands through marriage with an heiress, Mariota Chene, and Sir James may have been their son (Origines Parochiales, ii. 812 ; Robertson's Index, 34 ; Reg. Mag. Sig., i. No. 228, where heirs male and female are referred to)."

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In The Douglas Archives William Douglas says

"During my research, I have found these variations: Tilquhillie, Tillquhillie, Tilliquhilly, Tilliwhilly, Tilwhilly....

.... Like much of our history the origins of this branch are lost in the mist of time. The Scots Peerage, in the 1914 edition edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, reports that Sir Robert Douglas, in his (the original) editions of that great work, inserted an Archibald as son of James, 1st Lord of Dalkeith, who 'is said to be the ancestor of the Netherdale, Tilliquhilly and Inchmarlo families, but no evidence of this Archibald has been found on record.' Various web sites show David as a younger son of James, 2nd Lord of Dalkeith, by Elizabeth Gifford, making the suggestion that David 'living 1494, is the ancestor of Douglas, of Tillquhillie'

Much here is in need of verification ....

.... Thomas Ogston died and left two co-heiresses, of whom the younger married David Douglas, and brought to him the lands of Tilquhilly, thus founding the family of Douglas of Tilquhilly, who quarter the arms of Ogston of Fettercairn to the present day. (Supplement to the genealogical history of the families of Ogston families)

But: In 1479, the lands of Tilwhilly were held by Walter Ogston of Ogston, (near Fettercairn,) under the abbot and convent of Arbroath as the superiors; but David Douglas, grandson of James the second Lord of Dalkeith, having married his daughter Janet, they passed into the possession of his descendants. (The New Statistical Account of Scotland: Forfar, Kincardine). However, I believe this confuses the Janet, heiress of Walter with our Janet, heiress of Thomas....

.... My research continues, and I now have a chart showing the descendancy from David Douglas and Janet Ogston chart (the chart is posted at this point n the webpage) But I also have this: The founder of this family is presumably that David Douglas of Tilquhillie who is recorded as fl.1494. He was the second son of Sir Henry Douglas of Lochleven, +1476, progenitor of the Earls of Morton and of Buchan. This needs to be worked into and collated with the material already gathered on this page." ^{3 4}

James married Christian FORBES, daughter of John FORBES in Terpersie and Magdalen Bessie LESLIE.^{1 2} (Christian FORBES was born about 1485.)

  Marriage Notes:

"Christian Forbes, mother to the Baron of Cults aforesaid her husband (John of God's-grace) being killed at Flowdowne, married James Douglas of Tilliequhillie, and aired his land."

from Family of Forbes




"James Douglas of Tilquhillie, who along with his father and mother is mentioned in a charter granted by the Abbot of Aberbrothock, 29th August 1526. He married (Christian?) daughter of Forbes of Tolquhone, and left an only son : - (371) Arthur Douglas of Tilquhhillie"

from The Heraldry of the Douglases ^{1 2}