DOUGLAS, David of Tilquhillie ^{2 3}

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  Research Notes:

DOUGLAS OF TILQUHILLIE

The immediate ancestors of the family of Douglas of Tilquhillie is disputed:

1

In volume six of The Scots Peerage footnote 6 on pages 353 and 354 reads:

"In a recent publication, The Book of the Irvings, 1907, by Col. J. B. Irving of Bonshaw, 185, 186, it is stated that there was another son, John (Douglas, brother of James, Earl of Morton), who is alleged to have married the heiress of Hawthornden Abernethy, and so became the founder of the family of Douglas of Tillyquhilly about 1450. But there is no evidence on record of this John, whose mother is said to be Agnes Keith, daughter of the Earl Marischal. No alliance is known between the Morton Douglases and the Keiths before 1505 (ante, p. 43). Hawthornden had been in Douglas hands since 1386, when Sir William Douglas, son and heir of Sir James Douglas of Strabrock (see note p. 343 supra) had a lease of the lands from John Melville of that Ilk (The Melvilles, etc., iii. 14, 15). The parentage of Sir James Douglas is not proved, but his predecessor in Strabrock was a brother of Sir James Douglas, first of Dalkeith, named John Douglas, who obtained the lands through marriage with an heiress, Mariota Chene, and Sir James may have been their son (Origines Parochiales, ii. 812 ; Robertson's Index, 34 ; Reg. Mag. Sig., i. No. 228, where heirs male and female are referred to)."

2

In The Douglas Archives William Douglas says

"During my research, I have found these variations: Tilquhillie, Tillquhillie, Tilliquhilly, Tilliwhilly, Tilwhilly....

.... Like much of our history the origins of this branch are lost in the mist of time. The Scots Peerage, in the 1914 edition edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, reports that Sir Robert Douglas, in his (the original) editions of that great work, inserted an Archibald as son of James, 1st Lord of Dalkeith, who 'is said to be the ancestor of the Netherdale, Tilliquhilly and Inchmarlo families, but no evidence of this Archibald has been found on record.' Various web sites show David as a younger son of James, 2nd Lord of Dalkeith, by Elizabeth Gifford, making the suggestion that David 'living 1494, is the ancestor of Douglas, of Tillquhillie'

Much here is in need of verification ....

.... Thomas Ogston died and left two co-heiresses, of whom the younger married David Douglas, and brought to him the lands of Tilquhilly, thus founding the family of Douglas of Tilquhilly, who quarter the arms of Ogston of Fettercairn to the present day. (Supplement to the genealogical history of the families of Ogston families)

But: In 1479, the lands of Tilwhilly were held by Walter Ogston of Ogston, (near Fettercairn,) under the abbot and convent of Arbroath as the superiors; but David Douglas, grandson of James the second Lord of Dalkeith, having married his daughter Janet, they passed into the possession of his descendants. (The New Statistical Account of Scotland: Forfar, Kincardine). However, I believe this confuses the Janet, heiress of Walter with our Janet, heiress of Thomas....

.... My research continues, and I now have a chart showing the descendancy from David Douglas and Janet Ogston chart (the chart is posted at this point n the webpage) But I also have this: The founder of this family is presumably that David Douglas of Tilquhillie who is recorded as fl.1494. He was the second son of Sir Henry Douglas of Lochleven, +1476, progenitor of the Earls of Morton and of Buchan. This needs to be worked into and collated with the material already gathered on this page." ^{2 4}

David married Janet OGSTON, daughter of Thomas OGSTON of Kirklands of Fettercairn, Bailie of Lanark and Elizabeth CRICHTON, in 1479.^{1 2 3} (Janet OGSTON was born about 1460.)

  Marriage Notes:

"a.d. 1479, Janet Ogstoun, second daughter and heir-portioner of Ogstoun of Fettercairn,who married, in that year, David Douglas, and brought him the estate of Tilquhilly."

from Supplement to the History of the Families of Ogston




"David Douglas, second son of Sir Henry of Lochleven (No. 320) is said by Douglas in his Peerage to be designed brother of Robert of Lochleven in a charter of 12th August 1494. From the date, and also by the Arms borne by this family, it is probable that this David Douglas is identical with David Douglas, the first of this family, who married in 1479 Janet,daughter of Ogstoun of Fettercairn, with whom he got the lands of Tilquhillie. They had one son : - (370) James Douglas of Tilquhhillie"

from The Heraldry of the Douglases ^{1 3}