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SETON, William Lord of that Ilk, Sir
(About 1345-1409)
FLEMING, Jonet
(About 1364-1430)
GORDON, Adam 12th of that Ilk, 'Lord of Gordon', Sir
(About 1357-1402)
KEITH, Elizabeth 'lady of Aboyne'
(About 1358-1437)
SETON, Alexander of that Ilk, Lord of Gordon, Sir
(About 1380-1441)
GORDON, Elizabeth heiress of Gordon
(About 1391-1438)
SETON, Margaret
(About 1408-)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. DUNBAR, James 4th Earl of Moray

2. OGILVY, John of Lintrathen, Sir

SETON, Margaret 1

  • Born: About 1408
  • Marriage (1): DUNBAR, James 4th Earl of Moray 1
  • Marriage (2): OGILVY, John of Lintrathen, Sir 2 3

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Margaret married James DUNBAR 4th Earl of Moray, son of Alexander DUNBAR and Matilda FRASER heiress of Frendraught.1 (James DUNBAR 4th Earl of Moray was born about 1401 and died about 10 August 1430 1.)


  Marriage Notes:

" .... James Dunbar, Earl of Moray, was handfasted to Isobel Innes, daughter to the Laird of Innes, but she died before marriage. After her death the Earl married Katharine (or Janet), daughter to Alexander Seton of Gordon. This is a statement which is accepted in varying forms by all later writers, and nothing has been found to disprove it.

By his wife Earl James had two daughters, named together on 26 April 1442, in a royal precept, as daughters of the late James of Dunbar, Earl of Moray."

from Scots Peerage (vol 6)




"It is suggested here that Margaret (Seton) was born about 1405 daughter to Alexander Seaton of Gordon and his spouse Elizabeth Gordon. (note that a generation earlier John Ogilvy of Inverquharity married Marion Seaton a daughter of William Seaton of Gordon.)

She married firstly to James Dunbar, earl of Moray who died about 10 Aug 1430. James was delivered to England as a hostage for King James I and released in 1427 and probably at the time he succeeded to the earldom. It is said by MacFarlane but without confirmation that the earl married a daughter of Alexander Seton of Gordon. Margaret was that widowed Countess who received the fermes from 1431 and continued to receive the fermes of Moray throughout her marriage to Sir John Ogilvy.

Evidence suggests that Margaret Seton married James Dunbar about 1422 and had two daughters the elder being born about the time of his incarceration in England and the younger possibly born after his return."

from wikitree.com article 1 3

Margaret next married Sir John OGILVY of Lintrathen, son of Sir Walter OGILVY of Carcary and Lintrathen, High Treasurer of Scotland and Isabel DURWARD.2 3 (Sir John OGILVY of Lintrathen was born about 1402 and died by 1 August 1489 4 5.)


  Marriage Notes:

"He (Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen) married Margaret, Countess of Moray, who was dead before 1471."

from Scots Peerage (vol 1)




"Margaret (Seton), Countess of Moray married Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen about 1435.[6] That Margaret's aunt Marion Seton was spouse to John Ogilvy of Inverquharity, uncle to Sir John of Lintrathen suggests the parties were familiars.

Margaret receive the terce of the lands of the Earldom of Moray in Elgin, Forres, and elsewhere, the payments at times being recorded as made to Sir John Ogilvy. [7]

Instrument of Sasine in favour of Margaret Ogilvy, Countess of Murray, wife of Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen, Knight,was granted of a Provision in her favour. Sasine was given by James Ogilvy, Brother German of the said John at Lintrathen, near the Church, at the House or toft belonging to the Chaplainry of St Medan. The symbols of delivery were the giving of earth and stone, and the shutting of the Lady into the said house, all others being first put out, 18th July 1447. [8]

Margaret was mother to Sir John's children.[9]
James his heir
Thomas Abbot of Coupar Abbey
Christian mar. Sir Alex. Forbes of Pitsligo (see Note below)
John granted charter of Fingask from his father in1472
Elizabeth mar. Sir Patrick Keith of Inverugie
Marion mar. Henry Stewart of Rosyth
David pensioner of Wardroperston"

[6] "The Scots Peerage : Founded On Wood's Ed. Of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage Of Scotland; Containing An Historical And Genealogical Account Of The Nobility Of That Kingdom : Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". 2022. Internet Archive. Sir John Ogilvy, Vol VI, p.113-4 (in fact Vol I)
[7] Rotuli scaccarii regum Scotorum = The Exchequer rolls of Scotland Vol.6 p.219
[8] National records of Scotland GD16/1/3
[9] "The Scots Peerage : Founded On Wood's Ed. Of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage Of Scotland; Containing An Historical And Genealogical Account Of The Nobility Of That Kingdom : Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". 2022. Internet Archive. Sir John Ogilvy, Vol VI, p.113-4 (in fact Vol I)

from wikitree.com article

Note:
A daughter of Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen married William Forbes, heir of Pitsligo who died
vita patris. Her name is given as Mariota by The Scots Peerage, volume four, and House of Forbes, chapter XXVI. A later Christian Ogilvy married John Forbes of Pitsligo.

Volume one (not Volume six, as noted in the sources for the article) of
The Scots Peerage has a Christian Ogilvy marrying Alexander Forbes of Pitsligo. "Christian, stated to have been married to Sir Alexander Forbes of Pitsligo." This does not appear to be supported elsewhere, except possibly in Matthew Lumsden where the husband of "the Lord Ogilvie's daughter" is named as Alexander.

The given name Marion may be a variation of Mary or Mary Ann, and Mariota may be Marjory or Margaret. They are similar but not necessarily the same name.
2 3 4

Sources


1 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 6 (1909).

2 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 1 (1904).

3 Internet Site, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Seton-415 Margaret (Seton) Seton Countess of Moray (abt. 1405 - 1470).

4 e-books, Genealogy of the Family of Forbes from the account of Mathew Lumsden 1580 ed. William Forbes (1819).

5 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 9 Index (1914).

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