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OGILVY, Walter of Auchterhouse, Sheriff of Angus, Sir
(About 1330-1392)
RAMSAY, Isabel
(About 1345-)
OGILVY, Walter of Carcary and Lintrathen, High Treasurer of Scotland, Sir
(About 1374-1440)
DURWARD, Isabel
(About 1375-)
OGILVY, John of Lintrathen, Sir
(About 1402-1489)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. SETON, Margaret

2. FORBES, Isobel

OGILVY, John of Lintrathen, Sir 1 4

  • Born: About 1402
  • Marriage (1): SETON, Margaret 1 2
  • Marriage (2): FORBES, Isobel 3
  • Died: by 1 August 1489 3 5

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John married Margaret SETON, daughter of Sir Alexander SETON of that Ilk, Lord of Gordon and Elizabeth GORDON heiress of Gordon.1 2 (Margaret SETON was born about 1408.)


  Marriage Notes:

"He (Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen) married Margaret, Countess of Moray, who was dead before 1471."

from Scots Peerage (vol 1)




"Margaret (Seton), Countess of Moray married Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen about 1435.[6] That Margaret's aunt Marion Seton was spouse to John Ogilvy of Inverquharity, uncle to Sir John of Lintrathen suggests the parties were familiars.

Margaret receive the terce of the lands of the Earldom of Moray in Elgin, Forres, and elsewhere, the payments at times being recorded as made to Sir John Ogilvy. [7]

Instrument of Sasine in favour of Margaret Ogilvy, Countess of Murray, wife of Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen, Knight,was granted of a Provision in her favour. Sasine was given by James Ogilvy, Brother German of the said John at Lintrathen, near the Church, at the House or toft belonging to the Chaplainry of St Medan. The symbols of delivery were the giving of earth and stone, and the shutting of the Lady into the said house, all others being first put out, 18th July 1447. [8]

Margaret was mother to Sir John's children.[9]
James his heir
Thomas Abbot of Coupar Abbey
Christian mar. Sir Alex. Forbes of Pitsligo (see Note below)
John granted charter of Fingask from his father in1472
Elizabeth mar. Sir Patrick Keith of Inverugie
Marion mar. Henry Stewart of Rosyth
David pensioner of Wardroperston"

[6] "The Scots Peerage : Founded On Wood's Ed. Of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage Of Scotland; Containing An Historical And Genealogical Account Of The Nobility Of That Kingdom : Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". 2022. Internet Archive. Sir John Ogilvy, Vol VI, p.113-4 (in fact Vol I)
[7] Rotuli scaccarii regum Scotorum = The Exchequer rolls of Scotland Vol.6 p.219
[8] National records of Scotland GD16/1/3
[9] "The Scots Peerage : Founded On Wood's Ed. Of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage Of Scotland; Containing An Historical And Genealogical Account Of The Nobility Of That Kingdom : Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". 2022. Internet Archive. Sir John Ogilvy, Vol VI, p.113-4 (in fact Vol I)

from wikitree.com article

Note:
A daughter of Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen married William Forbes, heir of Pitsligo who died
vita patris. Her name is given as Mariota by The Scots Peerage, volume four, and House of Forbes, chapter XXVI. A later Christian Ogilvy married John Forbes of Pitsligo.

Volume one (not Volume six, as noted in the sources for the article) of
The Scots Peerage has a Christian Ogilvy marrying Alexander Forbes of Pitsligo. "Christian, stated to have been married to Sir Alexander Forbes of Pitsligo." This does not appear to be supported elsewhere, except possibly in Matthew Lumsden where the husband of "the Lord Ogilvie's daughter" is named as Alexander.

The given name Marion may be a variation of Mary or Mary Ann, and Mariota may be Marjory or Margaret. They are similar but not necessarily the same name.
1 2 5

John next married Isobel FORBES.3 (Isobel FORBES was born about 1435 and died after 1 August 1489 3.)


  Marriage Notes:

"He (Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen) is also said to have married Marion, second daughter of Sir William Seton of Seton .... but there is no authority given for this statement." (page 113)

from Scots Peerage (vol 1)

(referring to Scots Peerage, volume 1, above):


"p. 113, 1. 23, after 'statement,' add 'He certainly married Isobel Forbes, who survived him. On 1 August 1489, she executed a revocation of deeds done by him in prejudice of her rights (Aberdeen Burgh Sasines).' "

from Scots Peerage (vol 9 Addenda et Corrigenda)

Note:

John Ogilvy of Inverquharity (ie not of Lintrathen) married Marion Seton a daughter of William Seton of Gordon
1 3

Sources


1 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 1 (1904).

2 Internet Site, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Seton-415 Margaret (Seton) Seton Countess of Moray (abt. 1405 - 1470).

3 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 9 Index (1914).

4 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 6 (1909).

5 e-books, Genealogy of the Family of Forbes from the account of Mathew Lumsden 1580 ed. William Forbes (1819).

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