DE LA HAY, John of Tulllibody, Boyne and Enzie, Sir 2 3
- Born: About 1330
- Marriage (1): LOGY, Margaret about 1368 1
User ID: C876.
General Notes:
"In 1364, John de la Hay, Lord of Tullibothil, was Sheriff of Inverness and with consent of his son John granted out of his lands of Lochloy and Wester Raite an endowment for the chapel of Kincraggie. He also possessed the lands of Awn (the Enzie) and others. Mention is made of David II., having given in 1362, a grant of all the lands lying between the Spey and the rivulet called the Tynot in the Forest of Awne to John de la Hay of Lochloy and Tullibothil, for the purpose of being cultivated. Out of these lands in 1374 he gave a donation of four pounds for the support of a chaplain in the chapel of Geth."
from Family of Hay 2
Research Notes:
DESCENT
The Family of Hay places the ancestry of the Hays of Tullibody in the Hay of Leys family line, stating that the John Hay of this file is the grandson of William de la Hay of Leys; whereas Scots Peerage, volume eight, places him in the Hay of Locherworth line, as son of Thomas Hay and Lora of Cuningisburgh. It is latter line of descent had been followed here, not least because the dating presents serious difficulties in the case of the first scenario, but also on account of the landed property of Tullibody which links this Thomas Hay and John Hay. 1 2
John married Margaret LOGY, daughter of Sir John LOGY of that Ilk and Margaret DRUMMOND Queen Consort, about 1368.1 (Margaret LOGY was born about 1348.)
Marriage Notes:
"John de Hay, of Tullybody, was doubtless a son or grandson (of Thomas Hay and Lora de Cuningisburgh). A John de Haya is mentioned 1358-59 as in possession of the forests of Awne and Boyne, when the Sheriff was unable to obtain any payment from him. On 16 January 1362-63 John de Hay of Tullybody obtained a charter from King David II., giving him liberty to reduce into culture the lands between the River Spey and the rivulet of Tynot in the forest of Awne, and to hold the same lands of which his predecessor Gilbert de Hay obtained a charter from Robert I. In 1368 he paid 100 merks to John Logy of that Ilk for the marriage of Margaret (not otherwise designed) his wife. He was probably the father of the John Hay of Tullybody who married, 1388, Margaret, 'the King's niece,' apparently a daughter of Sir John Stewart of Ralstoun."
from Scots Peerage (vol 8)
Note: "Awne" is another rendering of the modern "Enzie". It has other variants, eg "Emzie", "Engie". The "nz" sounds like a modern English "ing". 1
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