MENZIES, Jean ³

   Other names for Jean were MENZIES, Janeta,² MENZIES, Jeane ³ and MENZIES, Joneta.¹

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Jean married Robert LUMSDEN of Clova, Advocate and Bailie in Aberdeen, son of Robert LUMSDEN of Cushnie and Isobel FORBES.^{1 2} (Robert LUMSDEN of Clova, Advocate and Bailie in Aberdeen was born about 1507.)

  Marriage Notes:

"It appears from a sasine, dated 27th December, 1581, that Robert was twice married, his second wife being Joneta Menzies. By her he had a son, Robert, called in the sasine 'infantulo.' This child must have died soon afterwards, for in 1584 there is another sasine on the same property in which he is not mentioned. It seems almost certain, therefore, that his second son Robert was so called because the first son Robert was dead, and this belief is strengthened by the fact that the property described in the sasine (in the Gallowgate in Aberdeen) is said to be bounded on the south by one occupied by Elizabeth Turing, the first son's widow"

from Families of Lumsden




"Lumsden, Robert. 1576.

Third son of Robert Lumsden of Medlar and Balnakelly.

Married, second, Janeta Menzies.

from History of the Society of Advocates
^{1 2}

Jean next married Gilbert IRVINE of Murthill, Collairlie and Auldquhat, son of Alexander IRVINE younger, of Lonmay and Elizabeth OGILVY.³ (Gilbert IRVINE of Murthill, Collairlie and Auldquhat was born about 1531 and died before 20 December 1599 ³.)

  Marriage Notes:

"15th March, 1596. - Charter to Gilbert Irving, his spouse Jean Menzies, and his eldest son, Alexander, of Auldquhat, Quhytcairns, and Stevensburne, by King James VI. - (Ibid.)" (page 169)

"2nd February, 1582. - Gilbert Irvine is witness to a deed executed by his brother, Alexander Irvine of Drum, at Drum. He married Jean, daughter to Menzies of Pitfoddells, relict of Mr. Robert Lumsden, brother to the nine sisters of Cushnie, and had three sons - Alexander, Gilbert, and John of Murthill. (MS. Papers.)" (page 180)

"Alexander Irvine, son and heir-apparent to Alexander Irvine of Drum, married, in 1526, Elizabeth, daughter of Ogilvie of Findlater. This Alexander Irvine was killed at Pinkie in 1547. Their fourth son, Gilbert Irvine of Collairlie, married Jeane, daughter to Menzies of Pitfoddels, relict of Mr. Robert Lumsden, brother to the nine sisters of Cushnie. This Gilbert of Collairlie had three sons Alexander, Gilbert, and John of Murthill. (Vide Collairlie.)" (page 209)

from Irvines of Drum ³