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DOUGLAS, William, Sir
(About 1250-)
DOUGLAS, James of Lothian, Sir
(About 1275-Before 1323)
DOUGLAS, John, Sir
(About 1302-Between 1346/1350)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. DE GRAHAM, Agnes

DOUGLAS, John, Sir 1

  • Born: About 1302
  • Marriage (1): DE GRAHAM, Agnes 12 October 1344 (papal dispensation) 1 2
  • Died: Between 1346 and 25 January 1350 1

   Another name for John was DE DOUGLAS, John Sir.2

   User ID: Y746.

  General Notes:

"Sir John Douglas, second son of Sir James Douglas, is said to have defended the island fortress of Lochleven against the English, but no evidence of this has been found. He was killed some time between 1346 and 25 January 1350, by Sir David Barclay, who himself was murdered on that date."

from Scots Peerage (vol 6) 1


John married Agnes DE GRAHAM, daughter of Sir John DE GRAHAM 'pater', of Dalkeith and Abercorn and Unknown, 12 October 1344 (papal dispensation).1 2 (Agnes DE GRAHAM was born about 1306 and died after 5 April 1361 2.)


  Marriage Notes:

"Sir Henry Douglas of Lugtoun and Lochleven was the fourth son of Sir John Douglas of Dalkeith, by his wife Agnes Munfode."

from Scots Peerage (vol 6)




"The fact that this grant (of 14 April 1377, charter of resignation by Margaret de Cragy)) was made at Dalkeith would indicate that Sir William Douglas, younger brother of Sir James of Dalkeith (d.1420) was the uncle of Margaret de Cragy (daughter of Margaret de Monfode whose mother was Agnes de Graham). Given the Cragy descent from Sir John de Monfode and his wife Agnes, this shows that Agnes 'de Monfode' was the same individual as Agnes de Graham, the wife of Sir John de Douglas, and that her younger son Sir William de Douglas was the uncle of her granddaughter Margaret de Cragy."

from The Scottish Genealogist




"Regesta 165: 1344-1345

4 Id. Oct.
Avignon.
(f. 140d.)

To the bishop of St. Andrews. Faculty to grant dispensation to John de Duglas, knight, and Agnes de Grame to intermarry, they having lived together and had offspring, notwithstanding the assertion made that Agnes was aunt (see Note below) of a woman with whom John had cohabited, Agnes being ignorant of the said impediment. A penance is to be enjoined on John, and two chaplaincies of 10 marks each are to be founded within two years. Their past and future offspring is to be declared legitimate. [Cal. Pet.. i. 79; Theiner, 282.]"

from Calendar of Papal Registers: Britain

Note:

John Ravilious points out in the relevant article in
The Scottish Genealogist (2014) that an error had occurred in the translation of a Latin word used in the papal dispensation, which when correctly translated show no evidence of affinity. 1 2 3

Sources


1 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 6 (1909).

2 The Scottish Genealogist: Quarterly Journal of The Scottish Genealogy Society, Vol. LXI No 4 December 2014 Agnes de Graham by John P. Ravilious.

3 Internet Site, 'Regesta 165: 1344-1345', in Calendar of Papal Registers Relating To Great Britain and Ireland: Volume 3, 1342-1362, ed. W H Bliss and C Johnson (London, 1897), pp. 162-172. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-papal-registers/brit-.

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