LAUDER, Robert elder, of that Ilk 1
- Born: About 1453
- Marriage (1): HOPPRINGLE, Marione 'of Smailholm' before May 1486
- Marriage (2): HAMILTON, Christine by 30 January 1515(1516) 1
- Marriage (3): LOGAN, Janet
- Died: After 12 January 1525(1526)
User ID: Q921
General Notes:
""A.D. 1525-2G.] [13 Jac. V.
344. Apud Edinburgh, 12 Jan. REX, cum consensu ut in carta 295), confirmavit cartam Roberti Lauder de eodem, - [qua concessit filio suo primogenito ROBERTO LAUDER, et ejus heredibus, - terras suas foreste de Lauder, cum dimedietate molendini granorum de L., terras suas de Dalcoif, cum tenentibus &c. omnium dict, terrarum, in ballia de Lauderdale, vic. Beruik ; ac terras suas de Sunderland, vic. Selkirk : - Tenend. de rege : - Reservato sibi libero tenemento : - Test. Ric. Maitland de Lethingtoun, And. Lauder fratre germano dicti Rob. patris. The. Cranstoun in Dodis, Cuthberto Cranstoun, Tho. Cranstoun, Alano Lauder, D. WiL Weddale capellano, Alex. Young notario publico : - cum subscriptione dicti Rob.: - Apud Edinburgh, 11 Jan. 1525] : - Test, ut in aliis cartis &c. xxi. 139."
from The Register of the Great Seal
"Robert Lauder of that Ilk, &c. (1) (d. after Jan 1525/6, see The Great Seal of Scotland , charter, no.344). mentioned as Oliver's son in a legal action in 1489. (Refer: 'Acts of Lords and Council'' 1478-1495, 9th April 1489, p.20.) Full sasine of the superiority of the Lauder family lands of Sunderland, Selkirkshire, and Dalcoif (Mertoun parish), in Berwickshire, was granted to Robert in 1492. (Refer: Exchequer Rolls vol.x, 1488-1496, edited by George Burnett, Lyon King of Arms, Edinburgh, 1887, p.764) In the Protocol Book of James Young (SRS) there appears a sasine (no.677) dated 7th October 1493 of the lands of Burncastle near the burgh of Lauder and amongst the witnesses was Robert Lawedir of that Ilk. On the 4th November 1496 Robert Lauder of that Ilk was a witness to a sasine in favour of George Home of Wedderburn. (Refer: Hist. MSS Commission - MSS of Colonel David Milne Home of Wedderburn Castle, London, 1902, p.27.) In the National Archives (of Scotland GD158/149) is a sasine following on a precept from Chancery date 18 July 1496 in favour of Patrick Hume of Polwarth dated 4th Nov 1496. The leading witness is Robert Lauder of that Ilk." [....]
"In The Register of the Privy Seal of Scotland 1488 - 1529 (vol.1, edited by M. Livingstone, Deputy Keeper of the Records of Scotland, Edinburgh, 1908, number 1257) a Letter of Licence was made on 10th May 1506 to [Robert's first cousin once removed] Sir Robert Lawder of The Bass, knight, which included, notably, 'Robert Lawder [of Edrington] his son and heir-apparent'. In addition, Robert Lawder of the Tower of Lawder (1) is listed. This makes it clear (apart also from the earlier mentions of Alan, his grandfather) that Lauder Tower and the lands attached to it had long been separated from The Bass estates prior to this date, and also that the Robert Lauder of Lauder Tower (or 'of that Ilk') was not a son of the feudal baron of The Bass (as incorrectly stated by J. Stewart-Smith in The Grange of St.Giles). It is worth noting that the next Sir Robert Lauder of The Bass, (previously Sir Robert of Edrington), was the Captain and Keeper of the King's castle and fort of Lochmaben, and was asked 'to sit upon the daily council for all matters occurring in the realm' as one of 35 Lords (15 spiritual the rest temporal, etc.) at Stirling on the 19th September 1513, ten days after Flodden, setting up a General [Regency] Council of the Realm' on behalf of the Dowager Queen. (Refer: Acts of the Lords of Council in Public Affairs 1501-1554, edited by R.K.Hannay, Edinburgh, 1932.) This indicates a high standing amongst Scotland's nobility.
This Robert Lauder of that Ilk (1) appears in a great many documents, including the sasines and Great Seal charters confirming him in his landed inheritance. In The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland 1513 - 1522, (edited by A.E.J.G.Mackay, M.A.,LL.D., vol.XIV, Edinburgh, 1893, p.527) sasine was granted on 10th November 1513 to 'Roberto Lawder' of the superiorities of the Forest of Lauder, half the granary and fulling mill there, plus half-lands in Dalcoif (Mertoun parish). All hereditary Lauder of that Ilk lands. He appears to have escaped the carnage at Flodden!"
from Ancestry & Family of Lauder oof Fountainhall 1
Robert married Marione HOPPRINGLE 'of Smailholm' before May 1486. (Marione HOPPRINGLE 'of Smailholm' was born about 1468.)
Marriage Notes:
"He (Robert Lauder) and Marione Hoppringle [sometimes given as Mariotta], his spouse, raised an action, heard on 21st and 23rd June 1498, against Robert Ker in Lyndenebernis and Margaret Hunter, his spouse, the relict of Oliver Lauder of that Ilk, for the wrongful occupation etc, for a year and a half, of a third of the 5 merk lands of Sunderlandhall in Selkirkshire, which Oliver had awarded to Robert and Marion in liferent, by charter under Oliver's seal dated 26th May,1486. This charter was witnessed by William Lauder, brother-german of Oliver Lauder, and various others. William, Lord Borthwick went surety for Robert Lauder in this action. The case continued, and on the 11th January 1499, Ker counterclaimed and the Lords ordered Robert Lauder to produce the said charter to them, and placed Ker & his wife under a caution. (Refer: Acts of the Lords of Council in Civil Causes 1496 - 1501, vol.ii, edited by Messrs Neilson & Paton, Edinburgh, 1918, pps: 223, 229. 234 and 296.)" [....]
"His first wife (married before May 1486) was Mariotta, daughter of James Hoppringle [Pringle], of Smailholm, &c., by his spouse Isabella, daughter of Patrick Murray of Fala Hill ..... He died having already (in Jan 1525/6 - Great Seal) settled his estates in fee on his eldest son and heir by his first marriage: Robert Lauder of that Ilk, &c.(2)"
from Ancestry & Family of Lauder of Fountainhall
Robert next married Christine HAMILTON, daughter of Hugh HAMILTON of Innerwick and Margaret KENNEDY, by 30 January 1515(1516).1 (Christine HAMILTON was born about 1485.)
Marriage Notes:
"Robert Lauder of that Ilk made representations to the Privy Council that in 1518 he had incurred substantial losses due to Border raids and incursions. His first wife (married before May 1486) was Mariotta, daughter of James Hoppringle [Pringle], of Smailholm, &c., by his spouse Isabella, daughter of Patrick Murray of Fala Hill. Robert's second wife (January 1516 - see Great Seal) was Christine, daughter of Hugh Hamilton of Innerwick, Haddingtonshire, by his spouse Margaret Kennedy (leaving issue)"
from Ancestry & Family of Lauder of Fountainhall
"A.D. 1515-16.] [3 Jac. V.
61. Apud Edinburgh, 30 Jan. REX &c, confirmavit ROBERTO LAUDER de eodem, et CRISTINE HAMMYLTOUN ejus sponse, - terras de Murecleuch, vic. Beruik ; - quas idem Rob. personaliter resignavit : - Tenend. dictis Rob. et Cris. ac ipsorum alteri diutius viventi in conjuncta infeodatione, et heredibus masculis inter ipsos legitime procreatis, quibus deficientibus, legitimis et propinquioribus heredibus dicti Rob. quibuscumque : - Test, ut in aliis cartis &c. xix. 89."
from The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland 1
Robert next married Janet LOGAN. (Janet LOGAN was born about 1480.)
Marriage Notes:
"Robert (Lauder)'s .... third wife (who on 1st December 1525 he was in the process of divorcing) was Janet Logan, presumably of the Restalrig family. He died having already (in Jan 1525/6 - Great Seal) settled his estates in fee on his eldest son and heir by his first marriage: Robert Lauder of that Ilk, &c.(2)"
from Ancestry & Family of Lauder of Fountainhall
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