ROSE, John of Alves ²

   Another name for John was ROSE, John in Lochiehills.^{1 2}

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  General Notes:

"In various places John Rose, father of Rev. Robert Rose and his brother John Rose, is described variously as of Alves, Wester Alves, or Lochiehills. His father (grandfather of Robert) was 'of Lochiehills'. Primary citations all refer to Alves or Wester Alves, the only place he is called 'of Lochiehills' is the Grant of Arms. Note that Lochiehill, Alves and Wester Alves, and Whytree form a roughly equilateral triangle less than 5 miles on a side. (Lochiehill is near Springfield, just east of Forres, and Whytree is between Barnhill and Edinvale, on the northern edge of the Dallas Forest. See www.streetmap.co.uk. )"

from Robert Rose tree ²

John married Margaret GRANT, daughter of Patrick GRANT 'in Whytree' and Unknown, on 3 March 1698 in Alves parish, Moray, Scotland.¹ (Margaret GRANT was born about 1675.)

  Marriage Notes:

"ROSE
JOHN
MARGARET GRANT/
03/03/1698
125 10 / 206
ALVES"

from Index of Marriages




"A primary source (¹⁵ 'Inquisitionvm ad Capallam Domini Regis, Retournatorvm ,,,' Inquisitions General, #8035, Nov. 11, 1698, Margaret Grant is listed as 'sponsa Magistri Joannis Ross in Alves, heres Patricii Grant in Whytree, patris') verifies the statement in secondary sources that she was 'only daughter' of Patrick 'in' Whytree, as she was his heir, and that she was wife of John Rose of Alves. This is corroborated in a sasine of 1697 (¹⁶ Banff Sasines 1600-1780, LDS film 896591) ('daughter of Patrick Grant in Whytree'.)"

from Robert Rose tree

Note:

Though it states here that Margaret was the "only" daughter of this Patrick Grant, this statement is attributed to unquoted secondary sources. The sources quoted here record her merely as Patrick's daughter. ^{1 2}