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FORBES, Arthur of Schivas, Mr
(About 1670-Before 1744)
GARDEN, Alexander 3rd of Troup, Advocate, Mr
(About 1689-1740)
GRANT, Jean
(1695-)
FORBES, Hugh of Schivas
(About 1710-)
GARDEN, Christian
(About 1725-)
FORBES, Jean
(1755-1786)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. IRVINE, Alexander 18th of Drum

FORBES, Jean 2 3 4

  • Baptised: November 1755, Tarves parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 3
  • Marriage (1): IRVINE, Alexander 18th of Drum on 31 December 1775 in Drumoak parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 1 2
  • Died: 1786 4

   User ID: F455.

  General Notes:

"FORBES
-----
HUGH FORBES/
U
00/11/1755
243/ 10 178
Tarves"

from Births and Baptisms

Note:

No Christian name appears for this child; the inference here that it is Jean Forbes is based on her marriage narrative recording her as "only daughter" of her father, and the fact that all the others in the Parish Register are male.
2 3

  Research Notes:

SOME NOTES ON THE PARENTAGE OF JEAN AND MARGARET FORBES

On page 46 of The Gordons of Nethermuir by John Malcolm Bulloch it is stated that Margaret Forbes was the daughter of Hugh Forbes of Schivas. Bulloch is explicit:

"Gordon's wife was Margaret Forbes, eldest daughter of Hugh Forbes of Schivas and sister of Mrs Alexander Irvine of Drum."

If the Jean Forbes who married Alexander Irvine was the sister of the Margaret Forbes who married William Gordon of Nethermuir, it is not likely they were both daughters of his wife Christian Garden, whom Hugh Forbes married in 1754, since Bulloch also gives the date of the birth of the son of Margaret Forbes and William Gordon as 1767.

Patrick Forbes of Schivas had two daughters, Jean and Margaret, born in 1739 and 1741. Patrick died soon after, and, it is possible that Margaret may have been raised by her uncle Hugh Forbes.

Moreover the marriage narrative for the Jean Forbes who married Alexander Irvine of Drum states she was the "only" daughter of Hugh Forbes as Schivas.

We can conclude that there may have been some confusion as to the exact relationships in the Forbes of Schivas family. 5 6 7


Jean married Alexander IRVINE 18th of Drum, son of Alexander IRVINE 17th of Drum, Jacobite 1745 and Mary OGILVIE, on 31 December 1775 in Drumoak parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.1 2 (Alexander IRVINE 18th of Drum was baptised on 4 October 1754 in Drumoak parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 3 and died in 1844 4.)


  Marriage Notes:

"FORBES
JEAN
ALEXANDER IRVINE/FR155 271 (FR155)
31/12/1775
189/ 10 262
Drumoak"

from Index of Marriages




Old Parish Registers
Drumoak parish Aberdeenshire
Marriages

"Anno 1775
Irvine of Drum
Decr. 31st. Alexander Irvine of Drum and Miss Jean Forbes only Daughter of Hugh Forbes of Schivas being contracted and regularly proclaimed were married Decr 31st 1775."




"The family name became Forbes Irvine in deference to his wife Jane Forbes, heiress of Forbes of Schivas, who died when Alexander was only 32."

from clanirwin website 1 2 4

Sources


1 GRO Scotland, OPR Index of Marriages.

2 Old Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland, Drumoak parish Aberdeenshire Marriages.

3 GRO Scotland, OPR Index of Births and Baptisms.

4 Internet Site, http://www.clanirwin-dna.org/genealogical-background Clan Irwin Surname DNA Study The Barons of Drum.

5 Old Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland, Tarves parish Aberdeenshire Baptisms.

6 Old Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland, The Gordons of Nethermuir by John Malcolm Bulloch (1913).

7 Old Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland, Tarves parish Aberdeenshire Marriages.

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