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FORBES, Arthur of Schivas, Mr
(About 1670-Before 1744)
GARDEN, Alexander 3rd of Troup, Advocate, Mr
(About 1689-1740)
GRANT, Jean
(1695-)
FORBES, Patrick of Schivas
(About 1705-Before 1744)
GARDEN, Bethia
(1718-Before 1802)
FORBES, Jean
(1739-)

 

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FORBES, Jean 1 2 3

  • Baptised: November 1739, Tarves parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 2

   Another name for Jean was FORBES, Jane.4 5

   User ID: F451.

  General Notes:

The entry for the baptism of Jean Forbes in the GRO Scotland's People website is as follows, but the narrative that is transcribed after it shows that Jean was actually born two years earlier:

"FORBES
JEAN
PATRICK FORBES/
F
14/11/1739
243/ 10 101
Tarves"

from Births and Baptisms




Old Parish Registers
Tarves parish Aberdeenshire
Baptisms

"1741(at top of page)
Novr 14 (this is the date heading for both entries though clearly only it applies to only one baptism)
Jean Forbes
Upon the (appears so faint as to be blank) day of November Jajvij C and thirty nine years Patrick Forbes of Schivas Esquire had a daughter bap(rest of word hidden by darkened end strip page) called Jean before witnesses
Margarit Forbes
And this day being the fourteenth day of November Jajvij C and (word hidden by darkened end strip page) one years Patrick Forbes of Schivas Esquire (word hidden by darkened end strip page) a daughter baptized named Margarit before witnes(rest of word hidden by darkened end strip page)" 2 5

  Research Notes:

SOME NOTES ON THE PARENTAGE OF JEAN AND MARGARET FORBES

On page 46 of The Gordons of Nethermuir by John Malcolm Bulloch it is stated that Margaret Forbes was the daughter of Hugh Forbes of Schivas. Bulloch is explicit:

"Gordon's wife was Margaret Forbes, eldest daughter of Hugh Forbes of Schivas and sister of Mrs Alexander Irvine of Drum."

If the Jean Forbes who married Alexander Irvine was the sister of the Margaret Forbes who married William Gordon of Nethermuir, it is not likely they were both daughters of his wife Christian Garden, whom Hugh Forbes married in 1754, since Bulloch also gives the date of the birth of the son of Margaret Forbes and William Gordon as 1767.

Patrick Forbes of Schivas had two daughters, Jean and Margaret, born in 1739 and 1741. Patrick died soon after, and, it is possible that Margaret may have been raised by her uncle Hugh Forbes.

Moreover the marriage narrative for the Jean Forbes who married Alexander Irvine of Drum states she was the "only" daughter of Hugh Forbes as Schivas.

We can conclude that there may have been some confusion as to the exact relationships in the Forbes of Schivas family. 6 7


Sources


1 Internet Site, http://www.thepeerage.com.

2 Old Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland, Tarves parish Aberdeenshire Baptisms listed in 1741.

3 GRO Scotland, OPR Index of Marriages.

4 Internet Site.

5 GRO Scotland, OPR Index of Births and Baptisms.

6 e-books, The Gordons of Nethermuir by John Malcolm Bulloch (1913).

7 Old Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland, Drumoak parish Aberdeenshire Marriages 1775.

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