FORBES, John 'of the Black Lip', Sir ³

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  General Notes:

"Sir John de Forbes, knight. He is mentioned as Lord of Forbes, 20 August 1387, as knight in a letter from King Robert III. 6 April 1391, in which a perambulation of the boundaries of certain lands belonging to the Bishop of Aberdeen on the one part, and the lands of Forbes on the other, is ordered. In 1394 he was appointed Justiciary and Coroner of Aberdeenshire. On 2 January 1404-5 he made a certain payment to Alexander Stewart, Earl of Mar, as directed by a Court held by the Duke of Albany. His name frequently appears as witness to charters up to May 1406, but before 20 November of that year he was succeeded by his eldest son."

from Scots Peerage (vol 4) ¹

John married Elizabeth or Margaret KENNEDY, daughter of John KENNEDY of Dunure and Mary.^{1 2} (Elizabeth or Margaret KENNEDY was born about 1358.)

  Marriage Notes:

"Margaret, married to Sir John Forbes of Druminor, who succeeded before 1385, and had issue. She is styled simply daughter of the Laird of Dunure, and was probably John's daughter."

from Scots Peerage (vol 2)




"He (Sir John Forbes) is said to have married Elizabeth or Margaret Kennedy of Dunure, by whom he had four sons ... "

from Scots Peerage (vol 4) ^{1 2}

John had a relationship with someone Unnamed PARTNER. (Unnamed PARTNER was born about 1365.)

  Marriage Notes:

"Among the illegitimate cadet branches of the House of Forbes, the first to be noted must be undoubtedly the three natural sons of Sir John Forbes of the Black Lip, as given by Matthew Lumsden.

They were Duncan, Malcolm and John."

from House of Forbes




"Sir John Forbes is also said to have had three natural sons :

1. Duncan, ancestor of the family of Auchintoul.
2. Malcolm, ancestor of Culquhary and others.
3. John, a man of violence, who, it is said, was killed by his brother Sir Alexander by command of the King."

from Scots Peerage (vol 4) ^{1 4}