FORBES, John OFMCap, formerly designated as 9th Lord Forbes 1
- Born: 1570 1
- Died: August 1606, Dendermond, Belgium 1 2
User ID: J836.
General Notes:
John Forbes became a Capuchin. His father, John, eighth Lord Forbes, being a Protestant, and his mother, Lady Margaret Gordon, daughter of the fourth Earl of Huntly, a Catholic, John followed the religion of his father, while his elder brother was educated a Catholic. To preserve his Faith the latter went to Brussels and there entered the Capuchin order. His letters and the influence of a maternal uncle, James Gordon S.J. led John into the Catholic Church, 1587.
To recover his son to Protestantism Lord Forbes affianced him to a noble Protestant lady. On the eve of the marriage John, disguised as a shepherd, fled and, having eluded his father's spies, landed in Lille. Pressed into the English army, he escaped, was arrested by Spanish militia, imprisoned at Antwerp, but finally released. After some delay he was admitted to the Capuchin Order, August, 1593, at Tournai and took the name of his deceased brother, Archangel.
Persevering in spite of persuasion, force, and the strategems of friends to the contrary, he completed his studies, was ordained a priest and after refusing an appointment as guardian, was sent as chaplain to the Spanish garrison at Dendermond. Mindful of his own countrymen he wrote to his kinsman and companion in youth, James VI of Scotland, setting forth the claims of the Catholic religion.
Learning of his whereabouts, many countrymen visited him, eighteen of whom he converted to Catholicity, also three hundred soldiers. To his great delight he was appointed missionary Apostolic to Scotland, but succumbed to an epidemic at Dendermond. He is said to have written an account of his conversion, though it was never published. His mother spent her declining years near her son; his betrothed became a nun in Rome.
from Catholic Encyclopaedia online 1
Research Notes:
9TH or 10TH LORD Forbes
In some presentations of this family, the Capuchin monk, John Forbes, the son of John Forbes and Lady Margaret Gordon, is not counted as the 9th Lord Forbes. This has the effect of putting all the following Lord Forbes one place out in their designation.
The 2023 Wikipedia article states:
" The question was most recently (As of 2023) settled in 1955, stating that he (John Forbes) was not to be considered a Lord Forbes and his younger brother would be their father's immediate successor as Arthur Forbes, 9th Lord Forbes.[5]"
[5} "John Forbes - The Lord Who Wasn't". Retrieved 15 November 2023 from https://www.clan-forbes.org/people/john-forbes---the-lord-who-wasn't " 3
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