FORBES, John 1st of Boyndlie (2nd family), Jacobite 1715 1 2
- Baptised: 9 February 1680, Moneymusk parish, Aberdeenshire, Scotland 2
- Marriage (1): MORISON, Susanna 1
- Died: November 1715, At Sea 1 3
Another name for John was FORBES, John of Upper Boyndlie.3
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General Notes:
"FORBES JOHN JOHN FORBES/ M 09/02/1680 224/ 10 6 Monymusk"
from Births and Baptisms
"John Forbes of Upper Boyndlie, eldest son by the second marriage of Sir John, 3rd Baronet of Monymusk, was born February 7th, 1780 (see Note below). He was educated for a business career, and was known in the family as ' Glasgow John,' from the place of his apprenticeship. He was granted by his father the estate of Pitfichie, near Monymusk, and apparently lived most of his life there ; but in 1711, the year when his brother, the bankrupt, sold Monymusk, John purchased from Lord Pitsligo the estate of Upper Boyndlie in Buchan, though it does not appear that he ever lived there. He was an ardent Jacobite, and became collector of Cess on behalf of the Earl of Mar's army. The MS. roll from which he did this is still in existence, and was published in 1932 by the Third Spalding Club, with notes by the present writers. On the collapse of the rising it is believed that he attempted to flee to Holland, and was either murdered or shipwrecked on the coast of Buchan, as sailors were afterwards seen wearing his clothes."
from House of Forbes
Note:
1780 is undoubtedly and typographical error for 1680.< 2 3
Research Notes:
BOYNDLIE
Boyndlie is in the parish of Tyrie, Aberdeenshire. Boyndlie House lies six miles SW of Faserburgh.
John married Susanna MORISON, daughter of George MORISON 2nd of Bognie, and of Frendraught and Christian URQUHART.1 (Susanna MORISON was born on 22 December 1680 4.)
Marriage Notes:
"Susannah (Morison). She married John Forbes, son of Sir William Forbes of Monymusk, by Barbara, daughter of Sir John Dalmahoy of that ilk. This John Forbes acquired, in 1711, the properties of Upper Boyndlie and Ladysford in Buchan. He espoused the cause of the Pretender in 1715, and was obliged to leave the country, embarking on board a vessel from Banff bound for Holland. He perished at sea, not without a suspicion of foul play, as he had a considerable sum of money in his possession. He was collector of the subsidy imposed on the Shire of Aberdeen, by order of the Earl of Mar. They had issue five sons and six daughters."
from Thanage of Fermartyn
"As already stated, he lost his life in the rising of 1715-16. A brief memorial of him by his wife, Susanna Morison, is preserved at Fettercairn with other papers belonging to the Pitsligo family. It describes how he was very active in levying the Cess required by the Earl of Mar for the Jacobite army, and after the failure of the rising was obliged like others to ' sculk ' in the country, and in the month of November he left Scotland by ship 'and in a few days after was unluckily washed overboard and drowned, leaving four daughters, Christian, Barbara, Mary and Margaret, and three sons, Theodore, John and George, and his wife with child of a fifth daughter, who was born after his death and named Elizabeth.'
The landed estate of which he died possessed was worth £600 a year, and he had also a bond of money owing to him, to the extent of £4000, settled on his daughters, but his wife was much alarmed lest his estate should be declared forfeit in view of his Jacobite activities, and that the Whig landowners of Aberdeenshire from whom he had extracted double Cess might claim it again from him. This does not seem to have occurred, but Susanna was certainly poor for many years, and brought up her eight children with a struggle. Christian, the eldest, became the saintly wife of the 5th Baronet of Monymusk ; Barbara and Mary both lived to be nearly 90; Margaret married Charles Copland. Elizabeth married James Milne, and secondly, George Abernethy. Of the sons, Theodore, who succeeded his father, was a successful doctor in Banff. John was apprenticed to Mr. George Keith, the well-known advocate, and George was also college-bred.
John succeeded Theodore, and George succeeded John, to be followed by the latter's son and grandson, and then grand-daughter, Jane, who married John Ogilvie, son of Auchiries, and founded the family of Ogilvie-Forbes."
from House of Forbes 1 3
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