CARMICHAEL, Duncan Saddler 1 2 3 4 5
- Baptised: 3 January 1766, Dull parish, Perthshire, Scotland 2
- Marriage (1): CARMICHAEL MS UNKNOWN, Christian
- Died: 25 November 1846, Buckie, Banffshire, Scotland 3 4
- Buried: St Ninian's Cemetery, Chapelford, Enzie, Banffshire, Scotland 3
Other names for Duncan were CARMICHAEL, Dan and CARMICHAEL, Dun:.6
General Notes:
Old Parish Register
Dull Parish Perthshire
Baptisms
"Janry 3d. 1766
Carmichael
Dun: Son to ('Peter' crossed out and 'Arch.' entered above it with a caret ^ mark to indicate where it should have been written) Carmichael & Margt. McLaurin in Tullichoul baptd."
Note: This given name is indexed by GRO Scotland as 'Dan'. The original could be interpreted as such but equally could be 'Dun' with a slight ink blot on the first vertical, and the rest of the entry suggests it was done hurriedly. The abbreviation mark following the letters indicates it was an incomplete name. Other evidence from the history of this family suggests the child was Duncan.
Archibald Carmichael (1801-1885) wrote of his family's conversion to Roman Catholicism in the 1780s:
"My Grand uncle Duncan (the saddler) was a clever man, a great reader and a controversialist. At one time he worked where he became acquainted with a Catholic family from Braemar, named Macintosh. He [Duncan] lodged with one Jim, a protestant, who was ready to enter upon an argument with the Macintoshes on their religion. My Grand uncle perceived the advantage the Macintoshes had over Jim, and concluded that the Catholic religion was more misrepresented than known. He asked the Macintoshes to bring him to their chapel at Stobhall, which they did - Abbé Macpherson was priest there at the time - and usually lectured upon Catholic dogma. My Grand uncle attended him zealously, corresponded with God's grace, and embraced the faith. He next got my grandfather to attend the lectures, to be instructed and received - Then my Great-Grandmother . . . My Grand uncle Donald the priest was only a child at his mother's conversion, so was Finlay -All were received."
from 'Notes of Dr Archibald Carmichael, Portlithen, August 1866' quoted in the Innes Review article by Lisa Curry
In the Moray Local Heritage website, Dr Duncan Carmichael (c 1808-1877), son of Finlay Carmichael, is referred to as living in Buckie, and "nephew of Duncan Carmichael saddler in Dunkeld". The sources noted are local newspaper references.
Note: The same site also refers to "Margaret" as Duncan's wife, and this may indeed be so, but the site goes on in a separate file to list this Margaret Carmichael as the one who died at Buckie on 1 April 1848. The death record for that Margaret Carmichael, however, in the Roman Catholic records for St Gregory's Preshome, adds that the woman who died on that date was the sister of Reverend Donald Carmichael, which, if the placing of Duncan Carmichael (1766-1846) is correct, would make Margaret Duncan's sister and not his wife.
Roman Catholic Records
St Gregory's Parish Preshome Banffshire
Deaths and Burials
"1846
Novr 25 Carmichael Duncan - Buckie - 82 uncle of Dr C. --" 3 4 6 7
Research Notes:
BURIAL
The Moray geritage website records the headstone for this Duncan Carmichael, who died in 1846 as Ch 176, the Ch referring to Chapelford cemetery which was the Roman Catholic cemetery for the area taking in St Ninian's RC Church at Tynet and St Gregory's RC Church Preshome. 3
Duncan married Christian CARMICHAEL MS UNKNOWN. (Christian CARMICHAEL MS UNKNOWN was born about 1764 in Murthly, Perthshire, Scotland 5 8.)
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