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LUMSDEN, Robert of Cushnie
(About 1472-1547)
FORBES, Isobel
(About 1474-)
LUMSDEN, Thomas
(About 1489-1513)
GORDON, Marjory
(About 1488-)
LUMSDEN, John 4th of Cushnie
(About 1513-1588)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. STRACHAN, Agnes

2. MENZIES, Elizabeth

LUMSDEN, John 4th of Cushnie 2 3 4 5

  • Born: About 1513
  • Marriage (1): STRACHAN, Agnes 1
  • Marriage (2): MENZIES, Elizabeth on 10 February 1565 2
  • Died: 1588 2

   Another name for John was LUMSDEN, John of Clova.6

   User ID: Z668.

  Research Notes:

ANOTHER WIFE?

H.W. Lumsden, in 1889, says of the elder John Lumsden, brother of James, "He was twice married. By his first wife, who was, I think, a Calder of Asloun." Interpreting his language, it is obvious he is not certain of this, and other sources say that Agnes Strachan was his wife. It may be that John had three wives. 2


John married Agnes STRACHAN, daughter of Patrick STRACHAN fiar of Glenkindie and Issobell STEWART.1 (Agnes STRACHAN was born about 1522.)


  Marriage Notes:

William Strachan of Glenkindie, son of Duncan, married Elizabeth Gordon, daughter of Patrick Gordon of Fulzemont and Johnisleys - see Records of Aboyne, p.210 - where it is stated that they had issue Patrick, who married Bessie, sister of Robert Stuart of Laithers, with issue, William, who married Margaret (otherwise 'Janet') Forbes of Brux, and Agnes, wife of John Lumsden of Cushny."

from The Strachans of Glenkindie
3 7 8

John next married Elizabeth MENZIES, daughter of Gilbert MENZIES of Cowlie and Pitfodels, younger, Burgess of Guild and Provost of and Margaret KEITH, on 10 February 1565.2 (Elizabeth MENZIES was born about 1545.)


  Marriage Notes:

"By his second wife, Elizabeth Menzies of Pitfoddels, whom he (John Lumsden, 8th Laird, 4th of Cushnie) married 10th February, 1565, he had one son, Alexander, and, says the Cushnie MS., 'he did brake the house and gave out of his auld heritage the lands of Clova and Medians, being the third of his estate,' to this Alexander - an unwarrantable generosity which the writer (Robert, the tenth laird) very naturally resented."

from Families of Lumsden 2

Sources


1 James Allardyce, The Strachans of Glenkindie 1357-1726 (1899).

2 e-books, Memorials of the Families of Lumsdaine, Lumisden or Lumsden by H.W. Lumsden (1889).

3 James Allardyce, The Strachans of Glenkindie 1357-1726 (1899), page 7.

4 e-books, The Records of Aboyne edited by Charles XI Marquis of Huntly (1894) page 210.

5 e-books, The Family of Burnett of Leys by George Burnett, ed. James Allardyce (1901).

6 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 3 (1906).

7 e-books, The Records of Aboyne edited by Charles XI Marquis of Huntly (1894) page 210 citing "Pedigree of the Gordons of Tilphoudie and Auchmenzie".

8 e-books, Memorials of the Families of Lumsdaine, Lumisden or Lumsden by H.W. Lumsden (1889) pages 42 and 43.

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