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, John King of England
(1166-1216)
Llywelyn Prince of Wales
(About 1175-)
Joanna
(About 1215-)
Susanna (or Helen?)
(About 1230-After 1291)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Malcolm 6th Earl of Fife

2. Donald Earl of Mar

Susanna (or Helen?) 2

  • Born: About 1230
  • Marriage (1): Malcolm 6th Earl of Fife 1 2
  • Marriage (2): Donald Earl of Mar 1
  • Died: After 1291 1

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Susanna married Malcolm 6th Earl of Fife, son of Duncan of Fife, 'son of Earl Duncan' and Unknown.1 2 (Malcolm 6th Earl of Fife was born about 1210 and died in 1266 1 2.)


  Marriage Notes:

"The Earl died in 1266, having married Helen, a daughter of Llewellyn, Prince of
Wales. She survived him, and married, secondly, Donald, Earl of Mar. She was alive in 1291, and was still drawing her terce from her first marriage."

from Scots Peerage



"Malcolm (II), earl of Fife, was a son of Duncan, a younger son of Earl Duncan (II) of Fife. The Chronicle of Melrose informs us that Earl Malcolm II 'married the daughter of Llywelyn'. This unnamed Welshwoman has recently been identified as Susanna, daughter of Llywelyn, prince of North Wales and Joanna, an illegitimate daughter of King Henry III."

from poms website

Note: Joan or Joanna is generally accepted to have been the illegitimate daughter of King John - King Henry III of England was not born until 1207 - but the dating that follows these partnerships, of Joanna and the Susanna, indicate a later rather than an earlier date. Clearly there is uncertainty around some of these unions and the parentage of the individuals. 1 2

Susanna next married Donald Earl of Mar, son of William Earl of Mar, Chamberlain to Alexander III and Elizabeth COMYN.1 (Donald Earl of Mar was born about 1245 and died on 7 July 1297 3.)


  Marriage Notes:

"The Earl died in 1266, having married Helen, a daughter of Llewellyn, Prince of
Wales. She survived him, and married, secondly, Donald, Earl of Mar. She was alive in 1291, and was still drawing her terce from her first marriage."

from Scots Peerage 1

Sources


1 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 4 (1907).

2 Internet Site, https://www.poms.ac.uk/record/person/2129/ Malcolm (II), Earl of Fife (D.1266).

3 e-books, The Earldom of Mar: Letters by Crawford, Lindsay etc (1882).


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