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IRWYNE, Alexander 4th of Drum, Sir
(About 1385-)
KEITH, Elizabeth
(About 1391-)
ABERNETHY, Laurence 8th of Saltoun, Lord Saltoun of Abernethy
(About 1400-1460)
(About 1402-)
DE IRWINE, Alexander Master of Drum
(About 1414-1454)
(About 1420-About 1460)
IRVINE, Alexander 5th of Drum, Sheriff of Aberdeen
(About 1436-1493)


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1. FORBES, Elizabeth or Marion

2. LINDSAY, Daughter
3. MENZIES, Nannys

IRVINE, Alexander 5th of Drum, Sheriff of Aberdeen 1 2 3

  • Born: About 1436
  • Marriage (1): FORBES, Elizabeth or Marion 1 2
  • Marriage (2): LINDSAY, Daughter 1
  • Partnership (3): MENZIES, Nannys 1
  • Died: December 1493 1

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  General Notes:

"In 1475 he resigned the lands of Lunmay, Salquhok, Corskelly, Arnabethy, and Carness to his eldest son and his wife Janet, daughter of Keith of Ludquharn."

from Irvines of Drum 1

  Noted events in his life were:

Laird, 1457-1493, of Drum. 1

Alexander married Elizabeth or Marion FORBES, daughter of Sir Alexander FORBES 1st Lord Forbes and Elizabeth DOUGLAS.1 2 (Elizabeth or Marion FORBES was born about 1435.)

  Marriage Notes:

"Elizabeth, married to Alexander Irvine of Drum."

from Scots Peerage (vol 4)

"The laird of Drum, having become jealous of his lady, Marioun, daughter of Alexander, 1st Lord Forbes, and of his chaplain, Sir Edward Mackdowall, ordered him to be seized; and the outrage perpetrated on the ecclesiastic in the tower of Drum placed him for ever after beyond the reach of jealous suspicions. For this act it is said that the baron obtained a pardon from the pope, and he certainly obtained a remission from the king." (pages 53 and 54)

"By his first wife, Marioun, daughter of Lord Forbes, he had three sons and one daughter, viz.: (1) Alexander Irvine, his successor; (2) Richard Irvine;1 (3) Henry Irvine. The daughter was married to Lesly of Wardhouse"

from Irvines of Drum 1 2

Alexander next married Daughter LINDSAY.1 (Daughter LINDSAY was born about 1445.)

  Marriage Notes:

"Drum then married, for his second wife, Lindsay, the daughter of a gentleman who had fled from Fifeshire in consequence of a slaughter which he had committed." (page 54)

"By his second wife, ------ Lindesay, Alexander Irvine had eight daughters, viz. : (1) Married to Coutts of Westercoul;(2) married to Chalmers of Strichen; (3) married to Skene ; (4) married to Ogston of Fettercairn; (5) married to Rose of Auchlossin ; (6) married to Crawford of Fornet ; (7) married to Duguid of Auchinhove; (8) married to Cummyn of Culter (?) or Barclay of Mathers (?) or both." (page 58)

from Irvines of Drum

The wife of Cummyn of Culter was likely a sister of this Alexander Irvine of Drum, not daughter.

Alexander had a relationship with Nannys MENZIES.1 (Nannys MENZIES was born about 1455.)

  Marriage Notes:

"It appears from the Council Register of the Burgh of Aberdeen that, on the 27th August, 1493, before the magistrates in court, 'Compeared ane right noble and honorable man Alexander Irvine of Drum,' and there publicly by deeds, and by the gift of a glove to each, made the following provisions for three natural sons and one daughter, whose mother was Nannys Menzeis, quhom God assolze (whom may God absolve), as the record piously observes."

from Irvines of Drum 1


1 e-books, The Irvines of Drum and Collateral Branches by Jonathan Forbes-Leslie (1909).

2 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 4 (1907).

3 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 7 (1910).

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